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Monday, May 05, 2008

Faith and the Voting Stylus

Did I spell "stylus" right? Johnny? Jeanz? anybody???


The following post really begins in the comments section from Saturday’s post. Once again it is me blah blah blahing against g-Bushy and why, whatever substance may be lacking in Obama, he fits my image of presidential… I dunno, he’s slicker than the other two, I want to believe that his presidency (more than the other two) will move to end this mistake in I-rock, and if it has to be a Democrat I’d rather it be BO than the Baby Boomer warrior with all the divisive aids/experts/public policy douchebags she will bring with her.

In the comments field a dear friend and relative of mine suggested that as a Catholic he could not vote for Senator Obama because he (Obama, not my dear friend) has a 100% approval from the NARAL. This dear friend also suggested that “social issues are still important to a few people.”

That is a fine statement and I think serious Catholics can put forward such propositions, or it is certainly not for me to say that to do so constitutes error, grave or otherwise.

But I would say that one’s Catholicism and voting behavior seems to me to be a bit more nuanced and it might go too far to say that matters of one’s faith and politics can be measured by ratings scales put forward by PACs for or against abortion rights, or for or against anything for that matter.

The realm of PACs and lobbyist organizations both “religious” and secular offer direction and vigor for those who seek to be inspired or angered by them. Yet, I think as a Catholic voter, I can stop and wonder about the extent to which my decision as a man of faith and as an American voter can or ought to be shaped by such groups outside my faith.

Hell, I seriously question the legislative agendas of actual Catholic groups on “social issues.”

There are a number of Catholic PACs or organizations resembling PACs concerned with Social Justice, I don’t think this was what was meant by “social issues” in the original comments.

Consider Network's (basically Catholic lobbyists) top issues on their agenda:

Issues on NETWORK's agenda include:

• Just and fair treatment for immigrants

• Affordable housing

• Healthcare for all

• Retirement security

• Food security

• Wage equity

• Peace in Iraq through economic development

• Fair and just global trade and responsible investment

• Fair and just taxation

• Investment in human needs domestically and globally

Are they hippies disguising themselves as Catholics? There's stuff on this list that both ole kobe and I would consider to be good things but wouldn't be comfortable saying they are the primary concerns of our faith.

How's about the Diocese of Cleveland Social Action Office. ..

Their mission statement:

"The Social Action Office of the Diocese of Cleveland seeks to shape a more caring society and a more peaceful world through justice education, advocacy, community development and organizing. Our work is based on the call of the Gospel to work for the elimination of poverty, to speak out against injustice, and to promote the common good."

Again, all fine goals, not the primary goal of the Catholic faith, to preach the Good News and help us understand the reality of Christ's revelation in this world and beyond. The mission statement above seems to be rather this worldly.

The Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minnesota's Office for Social Justice offers a questionnaire for candidates (this goes back to 2006)

Here are their leading issues:

1. Economic Development

2. Education

3. Health

4. Immigration

5. Life Issues

Ok, technically these are arranged alphabetically in the PDF so I’m not trying to say that “Life Issues” barely crack the Top 5, but they cared enough about the other 4 to arrange all the leading issues alphabetically.

Sorry.

This post is not designed to win some argument and say that Catholics ought not refer to political candidate ratings guides…

My only thought was to suggest that the American political landscape is complex. The Catholic response/reaction/muddling through – whatever you want to call it - to democracy in America is equally complex.

As a Catholic, I’d be reticent to say that my faith offers much of a guide in this or any election on hot-button issues, social issues, whatever we call such things from time to time. I am glad g-Bushy picked the Supreme Court jerkasses…er justices that he did…not because I am a Catholic, but because I am a reader and lover of the US Constitution. I believe Chief Justice Roberts to love and hold in the highest regard, those things as well.

But this has little to do with my faith, and my life as a Catholic. The beginning and ending of my being as a Catholic and life on this earth is to see Christ in others and exhibit all that which is Christlike...or at least all that I can muster.

How am I doing so far?

That bad huh...

I don't know how much of this can be done either in the voting booth by choosing candidates who claim to hold values that Christians ought to hold or in following the guidelines of religious or political groups who seem to be very much rooted in the affairs of this world.

Finally, this should in no way be seen as some sort of rebuke of my dear friend and relative's thoughtful statement regarding his faith and his voting preference.

This post has more to do with me, my faith, my confusion as a man of faith and as a voter, and least but definitely not last (?) my political opinions and or behavior.

That's it for now. I promise that tomorrow I'll try to throw in some observations on Bill Garver's saucy ass. You know he's just begging for it.

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not agree with BO on a number of issues, but I do not question the intelligence of those who supported him. On the other hand, you seem to express bewilderment at how anyone could possibly support the f**king stupid f**kbarn from Texas. I voted for the f**knut twice and I am no fool.

We live in a society that accepts and even encourages the disposal of inconvenient life. But as soon as there is another school shooting, all of the Enlightened Hipsters will be on here hand-wringing and wailing and asking themselves "why"?

9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill's ass is a little too pale.

10:04 AM  
Blogger Chris B. said...

I did not vote for Bush because on paper, his resume sucks. I had no indication that he would do a better job for the country than he did for the Texas Rangers (and I'm not being facetious). For myself, I feel like the past eight years have overly justified my original position on him. To be fair, I was reluctant to vote for the Democratic nominees both times, too.

I also consider myself to be one of the "enlightened hipsters" on here. I take issue with the blanket abortion/anti-life assumptions (pro choice does NOT equal pro-abortion) and I would argue that Bush (who ran on his family/religious values) broke one of the ten commandments flat out by ignoring the U.N. and starting a war on his own. So, speaking of the disposal of inconvenient life, let's talk about 85,000 Iraqi civilian deaths. Were all of them enemy combatants? Would they all be dead if there was no declaration of war? Is war ok if the soldiers only kill each other?

Ole - not intended as a personal affront as I assume your comment wasn't either. Fine that you disagree with Obama on issues - that's what makes this country great. It's the name calling and unfounded assumptions that gets the little hairs on the back of my neck all prickly.

10:21 AM  
Blogger edP said...

Ole Kobe, we have an interesting problem here because it is my stated position (here and on DC's blog) that I do not have a good reason for supporting BO and could easily be called a fool for doing so.

Maybe the point here is I would have no problem being called a fool over my support for BO since I think there is an image he puts forth that appeals to me.

I am probably drawn to Obama because of that image and what I think he will do or not do re: the war.

And I understand that g-Bushy puts forth a very different image that appeals to others. I am not suggesting that you voted for him on the basis of image only.

I think those who went into the voting booth thinking he was one sort of conservative might be surprised at the the kind of leader he turned out to be.

I get feisty when it comes to our beloved President Slappy and drop a few f-Bombs in his direction. If you felt slighted or caught by some collateral damage, I apologize. It's a blog and there is all sorts of verbal masturbation and buffoonery put forth by me and not meant to harm anybody. I don't want any of this crap to sound like personal attacks.

I didn't follow my own creed because when you inserted the Catholicism business in your initial comments I probably took that too personally and fired off today's post (because politics, this election and any election I could give a shit about. My faith matters in a way to me that makes my understanding of its relationship to political activity tangential at best).

The last part of your comments:

"We live in a society that accepts and even encourages the disposal of inconvenient life. But as soon as there is another school shooting, all of the Enlightened Hipsters will be on here hand-wringing and wailing and asking themselves "why"?"

is serious and deserves a different response. I'll try to come up with that tonight if theirs time.

Then you and I can have three exchanges on this business if you'd like.

Trinitarian...hmmm...

10:53 AM  
Blogger edP said...

And then we'll paint Bill's ass together!

10:54 AM  
Blogger edP said...

I did admit this in my original post:

"or maybe I am too stupid to understand why all the folks voted for Bush...

Other than, he cut an image that they found presidential, or they felt comfortable with the image he put forth.

And I'd be full of bullshit if I didn't say that is part of what made my decision to vote for Obama so easy. Truth be told, I have no other criteria on which to make a decision."

2:19 PM  
Blogger Chris B. said...

What substance was Bush standing on during his campaign? I can't think of a better example of how the rhetoric had zero to do with the reality. At least BO is running on a positive image instead of fear mongering.

The whole process is a sophisticated marketing initiative. You don't have everyone talking about hope/change if we're not in an economic slump and stagnant "war" with approval ratings for the president lower than Nixon's, for crying out loud. It's giving the people what they want.

I'm prepared for another Jimmy Carter (seems to be the standard for Democrat worst-case-scenario) because at least we'd have a good guy at the helm. I'd be ok with McCain for the same reason, although I take issue with his rhetoric and his voting record (so he won't get my vote).

I would not follow Hillary because I don't think she's a good person. She has been ineffective in reforming health care as first lady, and if it was really an issue for her, she would have reformed the health care options at Walmart while on the board of directors. At least she didn't drive Walmart into the dirt.

BO mentioned all of this at the very beginning of his campaign on more than one talk show. He's run a very aware, methodical, and grassroots campaign and his message is positive. This is fundamental.

Sorry. I'm past my deadline at work. Can you tell?

3:25 PM  

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