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Glad to hear that are friend from the District is planning to leave the District. I do not know what I will call him when he leaves the District. The artist formerly known as our friend from the District?
I'd like to say I could do better than that but who am I crappin'?
I'd only be crappin' myself.
We're happy and excited that he's coming to the greater Chicago area. I hope he won't be too sad when he finds out he's leaving this guy/band back in DC.
It probably doesn't matter in the long run. There's a ton more great music here, there and everywhere the fuck else. I'm just really into the Miss Amputee song these days. I'm gonna get Waltzes and Pleas sometime soon.
Last Revelation Bible study tonight. Fr. Hart did some amazing work and impressed on all of us the importance of reading this book, among all the others - responsibly.
If you know Greek, you know that the alpha-numeric name for the second beast is Nero-Caesar (Rev Ch13 v. 11-18). Father has been trying to remind us that if we read this book like 1st Century Christians we can see that it addresses their pressing political concerns, not some book of prophecy that describes actual beasts, false prophets to come, a road map for the endtimes etc...
There are reasons why people want to see Revelation in this way, in our times and, with all charity those reasons are what give some modern Christians their well-deserved bad reputations.
OK there was almost no charity in those remarks. What're ya gonna do?
Fr's goal then, for the past several weeks is to get us to understand the symbolism and how that symbolism was understood by it's intended audience...not the left behind book writin and readin motherfuckers.
Father didn't say motherfucker.
What I wanted to understand was the intended imagery by John (or the author/authors claiming to be John...whatever John this is)....oh, what I wanted to understand was the imagery of the 1st Beast at the beginning of Rev Ch.13 (v. 1-10).
Not to be confused with Paul Konerko. He plays 1st Base.
I asked Father: "Is it fair to assume then that if the second beast has to be Nero the first beast can't be the emperor Domitian (he came after) and the first beast is some political ruler in Rome who ruled before Nero, or maybe some pre-Roman leader who oppressed Israel?"
The last part of my question was the most important part to me. There is a revelation of Daniel in the Book of Daniel. There are several connections between Revelation and the Book of Daniel. I was sort of aware of them and Father certainly helped me understand these to a greater extent during the past few weeks.
I wondered if the pre-Roman leader, the 1st beast was Nebuchadnezzar or the unnamed Assyrian king defeated by Cyrus the Great, or Cyrus the Elder.
The Assyrian king in history of course had a name he wasn't the Clint Eastwood Assyrian King Without a Name or any shit like that.
He is unnamed in my favorite source on such things, Xenophon.
Out of respect and love (as much love as one can have for a man whose name means "slayer of strangers") out of these things I will follow Xenophon and not name the unnamed king.
The revelation of Daniel takes place in the 3rd year of Cyrus' reign. To the Israelites Cyrus is not Kupos (that's his name in the Greek - the Greeks also being fascinated by the great Persian emperor), he is Koresh he is a Messiah for God's chosen people. He frees them from Assyrian and Chaldean oppression and grants them the religious freedom for which they have longed.
Anyway, Father said the first beast was Rome and Roman institutions and I found the answer unsatisfying.
The rest of the class rocked!...except for the one I had to miss cuz I played the rock show in Rockford. I'm sure that class rocked too, I was just not there to witness it.
I'd like to say I could do better than that but who am I crappin'?
I'd only be crappin' myself.
We're happy and excited that he's coming to the greater Chicago area. I hope he won't be too sad when he finds out he's leaving this guy/band back in DC.
It probably doesn't matter in the long run. There's a ton more great music here, there and everywhere the fuck else. I'm just really into the Miss Amputee song these days. I'm gonna get Waltzes and Pleas sometime soon.
Last Revelation Bible study tonight. Fr. Hart did some amazing work and impressed on all of us the importance of reading this book, among all the others - responsibly.
If you know Greek, you know that the alpha-numeric name for the second beast is Nero-Caesar (Rev Ch13 v. 11-18). Father has been trying to remind us that if we read this book like 1st Century Christians we can see that it addresses their pressing political concerns, not some book of prophecy that describes actual beasts, false prophets to come, a road map for the endtimes etc...
There are reasons why people want to see Revelation in this way, in our times and, with all charity those reasons are what give some modern Christians their well-deserved bad reputations.
OK there was almost no charity in those remarks. What're ya gonna do?
Fr's goal then, for the past several weeks is to get us to understand the symbolism and how that symbolism was understood by it's intended audience...not the left behind book writin and readin motherfuckers.
Father didn't say motherfucker.
What I wanted to understand was the intended imagery by John (or the author/authors claiming to be John...whatever John this is)....oh, what I wanted to understand was the imagery of the 1st Beast at the beginning of Rev Ch.13 (v. 1-10).
Not to be confused with Paul Konerko. He plays 1st Base.
I asked Father: "Is it fair to assume then that if the second beast has to be Nero the first beast can't be the emperor Domitian (he came after) and the first beast is some political ruler in Rome who ruled before Nero, or maybe some pre-Roman leader who oppressed Israel?"
The last part of my question was the most important part to me. There is a revelation of Daniel in the Book of Daniel. There are several connections between Revelation and the Book of Daniel. I was sort of aware of them and Father certainly helped me understand these to a greater extent during the past few weeks.
I wondered if the pre-Roman leader, the 1st beast was Nebuchadnezzar or the unnamed Assyrian king defeated by Cyrus the Great, or Cyrus the Elder.
The Assyrian king in history of course had a name he wasn't the Clint Eastwood Assyrian King Without a Name or any shit like that.
He is unnamed in my favorite source on such things, Xenophon.
Out of respect and love (as much love as one can have for a man whose name means "slayer of strangers") out of these things I will follow Xenophon and not name the unnamed king.
The revelation of Daniel takes place in the 3rd year of Cyrus' reign. To the Israelites Cyrus is not Kupos (that's his name in the Greek - the Greeks also being fascinated by the great Persian emperor), he is Koresh he is a Messiah for God's chosen people. He frees them from Assyrian and Chaldean oppression and grants them the religious freedom for which they have longed.
Anyway, Father said the first beast was Rome and Roman institutions and I found the answer unsatisfying.
The rest of the class rocked!...except for the one I had to miss cuz I played the rock show in Rockford. I'm sure that class rocked too, I was just not there to witness it.
posted by edP | 8:10 PM
7 Comments:
Be careful what you wish for; it might cost you a liver.
or two...thanks to the miracle of organ donation.
The one you missed was where all the naming happened. Too bad!
p.s. The third beast is Larry Craig.
I thought Steve Ontiveros played Third beast?
(sorry, I figured an arcane biblical-baseball reference would fit this blog)
P, I had to look up Ontiveros. I know nothing of cubs infielders from the 70's with the exception of Rick Monday (first base?) and Manny Trillo (not even sure he was an infielder)
Kessinger, I might remember him. After signing the Paris Peace Accords he put his time in as a shortstop on both sides of town, no?
Chris, did Larry Craig tap his foot 144,000 times?
Manny Trillo was my guy. Maybe it was the name. 2nd base.
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